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Post by VampireAngelus on Dec 7, 2004 19:41:16 GMT -5
thats because you believe....I felt the same way when I believed....I gave up because no praying I ever did worked..... Were you praying for your needs, and for God's will? Or for your own wordly wants? Our only purpose on this Earth is to prepare for eternity, and to bring others to God. Not for our own worldly pleasures. I turned away from God, because all I cared about was partying and having a good time, I drank, got strung out on drugs and treated my girlfriends like meat. When my pregnant fiance' was killed by a drunk driver, I sank to the lowest pit of my life of sin, I thought 'God, how could you take away the only person that gave me a reason to live' I tried to kill myself, luckily, or by God's hand, I didn't succeed. I have devoted myself entirely to God for the firt time in my life, and now, I can say I'm happy, because I can feel the Holy Spirit.
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Post by The Weak's End on Dec 7, 2004 19:47:02 GMT -5
Were you praying for your needs, and for God's will? Or for your own wordly wants? Our only purpose on this Earth is to prepare for eternity, and to bring others to God. Not for our own worldly pleasures. I turned away from God, because all I cared about was partying and having a good time, I drank, got strung out on drugs and treated my girlfriends like meat. When my pregnant fiance' was killed by a drunk driver, I sank to the lowest pit of my life of sin, I thought 'God, how could you take away the only person that gave me a reason to live' I tried to kill myself, luckily, or by God's hand, I didn't succeed. I have devoted myself entirely to God for the firt time in my life, and now, I can say I'm happy, because I can feel the Holy Spirit. you have no idea what Im talking about.....so just quit ok....Seraphim and Shylox know....thats it....I didnt post it here....I told them though e-mail......I wasnt praying for my wants.....trust me.....and I give up...so theres no hope left in me....
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Post by Seraphim on Dec 8, 2004 10:10:08 GMT -5
Jen, there is never a lack of hope. As hopeless a situation appears there is hope. There is always hope. Its just not always in the form you want it in.
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Post by The Weak's End on Dec 8, 2004 14:14:34 GMT -5
I cant take this anymore!!......everyone is telling me the same thing....ok....and none of it is helping me....I dont know why I didnt pull that god-damn trigger on Sunday, but whatever was left in me then.....is gone now.....Im sorry.....
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Post by Seraphim on Dec 8, 2004 17:40:16 GMT -5
You ever think that someone wants you to know something if everyone keeps telling you the same thing? Do you know why we're doing it? I know you do. You refuse to accept it but we're doing it because we care. I'm doing it because I believe its best for you. I don't know all the facts on your life, but I know God loves you too.
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Post by VampireAngelus on Dec 8, 2004 17:46:43 GMT -5
I don't know you, and your life is none of my business. And the only person that is an expert on you, is you. All I know is that (and maybe I'm sticking my nose where it doesn't belong, and if so, just tell me to shut up and mind my own business, and this will be the last time I type something to you about it, honest injun)
All I know is that God uses people around you, and if they are all saying something, maybe you should consider it
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Post by The Weak's End on Dec 8, 2004 19:47:59 GMT -5
sometimes I hate being atheist.....why cant people just except it.....Im not going back to god....that is that.......I.......give......up.....is that clear??...........I dont wanna live on.....I dont.....
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Post by Seraphim on Dec 8, 2004 21:40:13 GMT -5
I don't want you to give up. But I can't make that decision for you....I just want you to know that yes, life is worth living, yes it will get better and yes God does love you, and he is there to love.
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Post by The Weak's End on Dec 9, 2004 5:51:26 GMT -5
see my algerbraic equation in another thread.....I dont remember which one.....but it explains everthing.....
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Post by Seraphim on Dec 9, 2004 10:07:29 GMT -5
Just because you don't like where the exit is doesnt' mean its not there.
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Post by The Weak's End on Dec 9, 2004 13:59:19 GMT -5
what I was trying to say is that I dont believe in God....so I dont believe it is an option for me.....
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Post by VampireAngelus on Dec 9, 2004 17:05:36 GMT -5
Can I ask you something? There is no wrong answer, I'm not going to pounce on you and verbally attack if you don't give the answer I'm looking for.
Do you really not beleive in God? Or do you just hate him so much because he lets bad things happen and doesn't seem to give a crap about us,and the rest of humanity, that you want to not beleive? Because to beleive in a God that seems to not care about the pain around us is a hard thing for you to do?
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Post by The Weak's End on Dec 9, 2004 18:01:47 GMT -5
Can I ask you something? There is no wrong answer, I'm not going to pounce on you and verbally attack if you don't give the answer I'm looking for. Do you really not beleive in God? Or do you just hate him so much because he lets bad things happen and doesn't seem to give a crap about us,and the rest of humanity, that you want to not beleive? Because to beleive in a God that seems to not care about the pain around us is a hard thing for you to do? honestly....you hit the nail right on the head.....but, I never want to go back....it never helped....and never will.....so I give up....
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Post by VampireAngelus on Dec 10, 2004 13:48:15 GMT -5
I kinda figured that was it. I struggle with that from time to time, after I lost my fiance' and after dealing with my gay best friend passing. I was like, "He was one of the nicest caring people I have ever met. Why does he deserve hell when some christians are so mean?"
I found my way back to God, but to be 100% honest, I still struggle with the 'why do you let things like this happen?' It just doesn't seem fair to me. I hope you find your way back, or at least get some kind of peace, you seem very troubled, and noone should have to deal with that much pain alone.
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Post by Seraphim on Dec 10, 2004 17:34:12 GMT -5
yeah, I've been asking God about that alot lately...maybe I'll make a thread about it.
[EDIT] I just realized this is the prayer room.
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